You should expect to walk out of the session with a couple of workable techniques ready to go.

Coops

Cool. Any ideas what will happen during it? Ie just showing, focus pads bag work? etc

Hmm. An hour with me would be open hands on the pads, covering incoming blows (sort of a fence) and our double palmed shot to the face.

Within that time you would pick up appropriate posture (stance) and a start to the principles of close contact blows.

Like many others on this list who train people, you would leave the gym being able to hit and cover.

gotta go - grandson has jumped on m\zy1 knee and started puynching keys

Co/op// s

Do you cover open hand strikes, punching, or both?

i would hope you would walk out of the class with the feeling of YES IVE ACTUALLY FOUND WHAT IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR i know i did. mick

1) Do combatives cover punching aswell as palm strikes?
2)Cover grappling (esp ground fighting )
3) Spar, or practice techniques with non compliance?

[quote="DaveCollins] While Grandad sorts himself out, you might find what you're looking for at about half way down this page...

http://www.urbancombatives.com/janws2.htm

If it differs with Coops' approach I'm sure he will elucidate.[/quote]

Sorry folks. As you saw, the writing went haywire, then it was bathtime (that time where grandson is supposed to be the only one who gets a soaking, but never is - thank god we have a tiled floor), then bedtime and guess where the computer is - yup, tucked in a corner of his room.

Anyway, back to the strike. The shot of Lee has his hands splayed outwards, although the two shots below don't. Ours is like the two below. There was a time when I was younger when I could get my hands to do what Lee's can, but not now.

Truth is, I think the difference stemms from the origin of the strike. Lee teaches the 'fence' usually with palms up, where as we position our hands with palms half facing the baddie, half facing down. That position means that the two hands don't alter their attitude, they just crash straight in, ending up in the same position as the two photo's under Lee's. Both methods hit hard and fast, it's just the starting position, no big deal.

We don't teach punching, but I have no issues with punchers and punching, exept when someone's doing it to me

We don't do much ground fighting. We kick and bite and tear every so often, but thats not easy to train a lot, as the wife wonders where you've been

Coops

Thanks for the elucidation Coops

Just to clarify (and i need telling at least a dozen times on most things),when the hands strike are they at about 11-12 o'clock(left) and 12-1 o'clock (right)?

Ade

Coops. Would the same not teaching punching/not doing ground fighting count for lee aswell?

Do you do sparring or no compliance practice?

Hi pmatt

i have been training with Lee for the last 3 years. Lee would tell you to train in boxing for body machanics only but not use closed fists
(apart from the hammerfist the only closed hand strike that we use and a good one too) but again he says if thats 's what you do and had succcess with then go with that but there are chances you'll break you hands( i have anyway before i started train with Lee).he would tell you to do grappling to understand the game but not go to the ground, should you go to the ground? get the fuck up on your feet again, but again he teaches grappling as a last resort yes, until you get the chance to get up.
as far as the sparring goes;
there is no sparring in combatives, is not a sport, combatives are something you do to someone or on someone, in other words beat the crap out of him before he does it to you.
there is a lot of scenario work where one is the attacker and the other attacks the attacker, if that makes sense to you.
for more go and train with Lee and you'll see for your self.
he's way of teaching is you learn it at the gym and you'll be able to you use on you way to the car in a car park after training, if you had to of course.

Pmatt:

You don´t have to restrict yourself to one style / teacher. Nick Hughes, a US-based instructor with a Q&A on this site, always says that it's best to get a black belt (or equivalent) in one core style and then go and do lots of cross-training. This is excellent advice, because no style is (or can ever be) complete.

For example, you might want to train with Lee Morrison for a few years to get the whole self-defence thing under control. In a few year's time, though, you might want to join a sports grappling club (health issues permitting). You never know, you might end up doing something completely different in your 30s...

All the best,
S

Cheers for the confirmation guys!